(keep reading to learn what happened)
Season: 2 | View All Season 2 Episodes
Original Episode Air Date: February 8, 2015
The Bar's Original Name Was: Extremes
Second Base Bar & Grill Address: 1535 W Chapman Ave Orange, CA 92868
Episode Recap
Extremes, later renamed Second Base Bar and Grill, was an Orange, California bar that was featured on Season 2 of Bar Rescue (and then again on Season 4).
Though the original Second Base Bar Rescue episode aired in September 2012, the actual filming and visit from Jon Taffer took place before that.
It was originally featured on Season 2 Episode 10 and the episode name was “Bikini Bust” .
Originally featured on Season 2 of Bar Rescue, Second Base Bar & Grill is the reincarnation of Extremes from that Season 2 Bar Rescue Episode.
In Season 4, Jon Taffer went back to Second Base to try to re-rescue the bar in Episode 11, which was named “Second Base, Third Strike”.
This means that Second Base has been the beneficiary of two different Bar Rescue episodes.
I think the only other bar to be rescued twice is Champagne’s Cafe in Las Vegas.
While Jon’s original rescue of Extremes seemed to be successful, the bar had been steadily going downhill.
Why? Because Terry, the owner of Second Base, refused to put any of the money he was making back into the bar.
Combine that with new competition in the area, and Second Base was in dire need of a rescue from Jon Taffer…again.
To help the bar, Jon brought in mixologist Joseph Brooke and actress Sarah Colanna to help.
The trio immediately sees signs of distress, as the bar’s exterior looks rundown and lacks any lights.
The menu Jon created when rescuing Extremes the first time was totally gone and things were just generally filthy all around.
Taffer was furious that Second Base had slipped backed into its old ways.
But despite his anger, Jon was still willing to help.
He suggested a renovation that would cost $100,000.
Jon was willing to spend a generous $70k of that money…
But he wanted the owners to put up $30,000 of their own money to prove that they still cared about fighting for Second Base.
When Terry refused, Jon Taffer walked out of Second Base without renovating anything.
Given what you’ve seen on the various Second Base Bar Rescue visits, you’re probably not going to be surprised by what you learn next (though the bar is still open).
Second Base Bar & Grill Update - What Happened Next?
Now that we’ve recapped the Second Base Bar Rescue episode, let’s talk about what happened to the bar after Jon Taffer and his crew left Orange, CA.
After the first rescue, sales at the bar were up by 20-30%.
However, the bar also had issues, such as a November 2013 fatal shooting in the bar’s parking lot.
You can read about this sad event in an article from CBS Los Angeles.
Issues like this, and others, led to the bar going downhill (or even more downhill).
This is why Jon Taffer had to come back and rescue the bar again in 2015.
So – is Second Base still open after Jon Taffer’s second attempt?
Is Second Base still open?
As of my most recent check in 2024, Second Base is still open and serving customers in Orange, CA.
It’s still using the Second Base name and it’s kept the bikini bartender concept.
In fact, the bar’s official website and social media profiles lean heavily into the “scantily clad women” angle.
For example, the Second Base Instagram page is pretty much what you’d expect.
Food and drink seem to be a bit of an afterthought – here’s an example of the Second Base Bar menu:
Second Base temporarily closed for health violations in March 2024
While Second Base is still open as of my most recent check in March 2024, the bar has had some issues with health inspections.
According to the Orange County Register, Second Base was temporarily closed for a rodent infestation on March 4, 2024.
The bar was then able to re-open two days later on March 6 2024, after presumably dealing with the rodent infestation (I hope at least!).
After watching the episode, are you surprised that the bar might have issues with a rodent infestation?
I know that I’m not really surprised.
I’m glad they seem to have fixed the problem, though.
There’s also a Reddit thread on the Orange County subreddit, which included this exchange about Second Base.
It seems like not all of the locals are fans haha.
Second Base reviews after Bar Rescue
Unsurprisingly, the reviews are pretty bad.
It only has a 2.5-star rating on Yelp and reviewers regularly complain about music, lack of sports, bad smells, and other generally horrible experiences.
Seriously – like every negative review mentions that it smells like vomit all the time.
It’s not much better on Google, where the bar has a 3.4 star rating (which is pretty bad because Google reviewers are usually more generous than Yelp).
Of all the negative Yelp reviews, this one star review might be my favorite:
Friends chose to go here, although I can’t fathom why.
Waited in line to get a drink, never got there.
The inside smelled like barf, which you could smell before even getting in the door, baby diarrhea, or really rank BO all of which kept me wanting to go back outside.
I wasn’t sure where the heck the smell was coming from, but couldn’t seem to avoid it.
Going outside was probably the best recourse because inside you couldn’t hear anything because the music was blasting so loudly.
Positive reviews are few and far between, so we’ll see how Second Base does in the future.
Here are a few other examples of negative reviews that happened after the visit from Jon Taffer…
1 star review from August 2022:
Decided to pop in because we saw it on a Bar Rescue re-run.
It’s as bad as we expected it to be.
Servers wear ridiculous stripper gear and pull a low-class sexy vibe like Hollywood Blvd in the early 1980s.
Drinks are average beer brands and well brands.
Food is an unimaginative bio hazard.
The place smells like an outhouse on a warm day.
Why would anyone work here?
1 star review from July 2021:
I don’t know how this place stays open.
First, it smells bad.
I have been in three times and it always smells like vomit.
The next problem is that the service is not good and it seems to be because the kitchen is so bad.
Maybe the wait staff could do better, but you won’t get your food any sooner than 45 minutes no matter what you order.
This is a “breast-aurant” with women in bikinis.
Think Hooters or Twin Peaks but way less classy so you should consider that if you don’t like those types of places.
I heard this place was on bar rescue, but if they were, they didn’t get rescued.
I stopped going here at the last time because there are too many other places that better.
1 star review from November 2016:
Not good…tried rly hard to like it!
Staff is nice but everything else is awful! =(
Can see the change from bar rescue but nothing crazy.
This place has potential but it’s squandered in the midst of everything else.
But as of my most recent check in 2024 – the bar is still open.
So if you’re in the area, you too can experience the magical smells that all of the reviewers write about.
Here’s an example of what the outside looks like as of August 2022:
If you want to see some other nearby Los Angeles area Bar Rescue episodes, you can check out my updates for The Cave in Anaheim, Pineapple Hill Grill / Renz Social House in Tustin, and The Olive Pit in Orange.
And if you want to share your thoughts on either of the Second Base / Extremes episodes, you can do so using the comments section below.
Thanks for reading!
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Last updated: 2024-03-11 07:38
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS PLACE IS STILL OPEN, CONSIDERING TERRY IS THE BIGGEST DOUCHEBAG IN THE HISTORY OF BAR RESCUE! THE FACT THAT JON TAFFER EVEN AGREED TO GO BACK AFTER THE FIRST “RESCUE” IS BEYOND ME. TERRY WAS TRYING TO COVER UP FOR HIS FAILURE AS AN OWNER, BLAMING EVERY SINGLE NEGATIVE THING GOING ON AT THIS PLACE ON THE REST OF THE STAFF. BUT WHAT REALLY COOKED IT FOR ME WAS WHEN HE TOTALLY DISRESPECTED LISA MARIE WHEN SHE WAS IN THERE TRYING TO HELP CLEAN. TOTAL B.S. THE FACT THAT THE PLACE IS SURVIVING, IS BEYOND ME!
How John nor the manager never punched that dude in the bleeping mouth I’ll never know
All Terry needed was a kick in the balls…. because that’s what I would have done…. and then walk out before he had the last word…. that conceited “f**kin ahole…
I don’t think he has any balls to kick.
Exactly
You’re assuming he has balls.
No mammmees weyyyy..I just watched the episode. Spoon fed a solution to create a proper sports bar and reverts back to a corny mixture of 304 servers and ex con tweakers dancing quasi cumbia and literally shooting each other in the parking lot. Oogling at 304’s and railing a bolsita of perico on a nightly basis is the only thing the owner cares about. Enjoy a rat poop smoothie while coming to the realization that you were too cheap to attend an actual strip club while eating d grade tacos and ignoring the angels game at this absolute dump. Before you enter … look at it closely. PS: TERRY WEARS ANKLE SOCKS
Job did an amazing job on that place the first time, and after all Jon did for Terry (the owner), I can’t believe that Terry let that place go to shit again! Terry is such an asshole who doesn’t deserve to be in business & I can’t believe that he turned down Jon’s help (which he didn’t deserve again) cuz he’s too freakin cheap to put any more money into a business that he let go to shit again! I hope it closes soon!
I miss Robin & in my opinion was the nicest & hottest server there.
My thoughts exactly! That owner is a jerk and a creep. I was relieved when Jon told him that he had to pony up $30,000 of his own money. Too cheap to take care of his own bar.
Once a deadbeat, always a deadbeat.
I know how to get a new owner.
“Hey, Terry. Come outside behind the building. I want to show you how my new shotgun works.”
After watching the the show I was so happy n thankful that Jon did not rescue the bar, the owner was and is a complete idiot/moron/douche bag and was trying to manipulate into remodeling the bar again. I hope to stop by one day and tell the owner what I said here to his face!
It was the worst place I’ve ever been and it smells like a sewer and I’m not sure it’s coming from the floor where it was before but I would never go here again thanks John for not doing it again
Terry is a idiot.Like jon said put up the money and i will help you. If i was a customer i would neber go there. He does not care about anything but himself. Putting the blame on the staff, also if i was a staff member i would of walked out and never come back. The staff had heart and passion for the bar. Terry should of not been a owner.
SCREW YOU Terry!
Tells you how great that other bar is doing if he needs every dollar from this bar to keep it open! Sounds like out of the 2, 2nd base is the only one making any money.
Jon should have rescued the barTENDERS not the bar!
He did, he trained them and the cook. I hope every one of them walked out and found new jobs immediately.
Correct! He also said (paraphrasing) he was going to train them to use their skills here or ELSEWHERE… I hope they all eventually walked out!
I was also hoping Jon didn’t help him again.
Well, if any of them need a place to live, I’ll make the sacrifice. There was one woman who was in the first rescue episode. I think her name was Nikki and she was so hot.
…..or it might’ve been Barbie.
Terry might have a shot in politics…
I don’t know. Sure he’s a lying weasel, and when you meet him, your reaction is to punch him in the face, and…….. Sorry. Where was I going with this?
Terry was the biggest dick in the history or the show. Didn’t Jon get some of the girls jobs elsewhere or am I confusing that with another shithole he refused to rescue?
Terry is a idiot thanks jon for not redoing his bar
Please call someone to come and check the health code! I’m sure they would close it immediately!
They pass every year if you can believe it. He must be spending all the money in bribes to the health dept.
💯 % agree!
Terry is a sexist prick! Otherwise have his waitresses and bartenders dressed like that. He doesn’t care about them. If he could have them naked, he would. I don’t see any half naked guys there.
Yeah Terry in 2008 they shut down your other bar! Drugs, prostitution and physical assaults!
2nd Basement heap just like the Beach Girls Bar they shut down!
Hey Terry, I hope you get to be homeless! You deserve it!
What other bar? I’ve only watched the first episode. Does it talk about another bar in the other episode?
What would be fun is a partnership between Terry and the douchebag who ran Blacklight. It would set a world record for fastest time for a business to be run into the ground.
Or Terry and the d-bag from Headhunters. Now THERE’S a recipe for success (lol)
That prick owner deserves to be living in a sewage treatment plant in raw crap. Arrogant, devoid of humanity, incredibly inept business owner, should be jailed for health violations.
This prick is slick…. this dude, Terry doesn’t give a shit about that place…. he’s only using it as a tax write off for his other bar… this is his loser bar which he needs for tax purpose only…. So he screwed his GM, his bartenders, tried to screw Taffer and his staff…and is also trying to screw the government…..he’s knows what he’s doing…. I’m surprised he’s not in jail yet…
Most likely he is running as many of the expenses from his other bar like food and alcohol through second base to show a big loss on paper. He can then use that to offset a big profit at the other one and not have to pay taxes.
The owner is a 1st class douche, I was sitting watching and wondering is John really going to bail this guy out a 2nd time??
I’m glad he didn’t!
He wouldn’t put $30,000 in to be up 70,000 shows his business sense!
After reading to see if this was still open in 2022, and the comments, no one said if the staff were still all there, did the manager leave and find another job? What about all the bartenders?
Like OFace, as this bar still is open, years later, it has to count as a Taffer Success Story. Dozens of scantily clad women showing off their breasts can’t be wrong.
Has this been updates since the second rescue?
Yes I most recently checked everything in March 2023. I only put up one post for the bar though – I didn’t create a separate post for each rescue.
What an angry defensive small insecure loser this owner is.
From the Instagram page it looks like photos of a Perv Palace.
Absolutely disgusting place.
Agreed. I can’t imagine how any legitimate county health department would let them stay in business.
At the end of Extremes episode, Terry’s debt was $80,000. When he comes in for the second rescue, he says the debt was $180,000. Where did he put the extra $100,000???!
Little lying
powerless wimp. Sentence got cut off!
I’ve watched every episode of Bar Rescue at least 3x. Terry is the biggest a-hole ever to appear on the show. Bitch slapping would be too good for him. That cocky, puny little bastard didn’t deserve help the first time, let alone a second.
I think Paul San Filipo from Las Vegas Gipsy/SBLV was pretty awful as well.
I don’t usually say this but I hope that a*hole owner get a disfiguring disease that makes him as pretty outside as in. Not that he is at all pretty. Children must scream in horror when looking at his face.
I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire. I would fan the flames with a smile.
Bad luck to you
Terror er tart
Roflmfao
I just caught the last half of the “Second Base” episode of Bar Rescues, and based just on what I watched, what needs renovation and updating is that OWNER, not the physical bar.
And that unfortunately is completely beyond Jon Taffer’s most sincere and heartfelt desire to see this distressed business succeed. Jon can change anything physical he wants to inside Second Base – the ambience, the menu, the music, the sign out front.
But in the matter of Second Base, that place is rotten to the core – the core being that OWNER, Terry or whatsever his face. God bless and favor the fortune of every employee, including managers, who has had to endure the complete lack of leadership and morale there.
shame on you terry you are one of the worst owners that your own bar closed and shut down and not getting any more money never again it means you did not pay your workers and one of the worst lack and worst leadership and a thief that your own bar was rotten and disgusting he was cursing and drinking i ever seen on you terry are one of the biggest loser
shame on you terry you are one of the worst owners that your own bar closed and shut down and not getting any more money never again it means you did not pay your workers and one of the worst lack and worst leadership and a thief that your own bar was rotten and disgusting he was cursing and drinking i ever seen on you terry are one of the biggest loser.
and jon taffer i want wish you good luck rescue new bars for our community
I’m honestly disappointed Terry survived through COVID. And I’m surprised he hasn’t burned the bar down for the insurance money; he has absolutely no care for this bar.
I don’t live too far from this place and even I wouldn’t step foot in there.
As first episode, I feel bad for staff, give credit tho because actually made successful! Terry,well Terry will always be a LOOOZZER!
100%percent terry will always be a loser extreme sports bar remains closed he is a scammer and has scamming people’s money and stealing from them